That time of the University of Washington's fall football camp has been reached – men separating themselves from the recently-arriving teenagers.
It's been two weeks of true freshmen getting acclimated to unfamiliar surroundings, and stuffing their heads with new information.
Defensive coordinator Nick Holt thinks after what he saw in practice last week, and what he witnessed Saturday at the team's second scrimmage, the freshmen have hit a wall.
"They need to get a little rest," Holt said. "All of them are a little shaky on things – blurry-eyed. They're mentally not as sharp as they were a week ago because they've had so much put upon them as far as mentally – offense and defense."
Shaky outings happened all over the field Saturday:
• Cornerback Gregory Ducre was one of the newcomers UW coach Steve Sarkisian singled out at the outset of camp as whom he wanted to see do battle.
Early on, Ducre deflected a Nick Montana pass that appeared to be picked off by defensive end Chris Robinson, but the play was wiped out by a personal-foul penalty.
After that, he struggled. He was whistled for a holding penalty on receiver DiAndre Campbell midway through the first half.
If it wasn't Campbell, it was Kevin Smith in the second half. A pass-interference penalty was called on Ducre to put the No. 3 offense in scoring position, and later in the drive Smith caught two passes with Ducre defending him.
• Missed tackles were an issue, too, particularly by linebacker Princeton Fuimaono and defensive tackle Drew Schultz.
• Safety Sean Parker took bad angles on a couple long-gaining plays.
• Even after linebacker Cooper Pelleur recorded three sacks, Holt said the Skyline High product made his share of mistakes, too.
"I don't think any of the freshmen really stood out the last couple days," Holt said. "I think they're struggling – they're tired, they're worn down. We've got to get those guys freshened back up."
Sarkisian said he and the staff have started the evaluation process on the true freshmen and whether they're redshirt or no on Sunday. It is expected to carry into mid-week.
"We start to game-plan for BYU, and we've got to know from a rep-standpoint … the percentage of reps in practice (the true freshmen will get) if you're going to play," Sarkisian said.
• Four true freshmen I expect to be locks for playing time:
1, Jesse Callier, RB – Could end up as Chris Polk's understudy.2, Kevin Smith, WR – Might emerge as star of special teams.3, Sean Parker, SS – Already backing up Nate Williams.4, Sione Potoa'e, DT – Will be part of inside rotation.
• Four true freshman I think will redshirt
1, Jamaal Kearse, LB – Adjustment period to new position expected.2, Ben Riva, OT – Missed time with illness; toughness in question, too.3, Nick Montana, QB – Will travel, but expect Price to be first off bench.4, Deontae Cooper, RB – Bad break after suffering season-ending knee injury.