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Irvin doesn't practice after all; Avril likely out this weekend

Pete Carroll gave us a run down on injured players this after practice today.

Defensive end Cliff Avril (hamstring) practiced for the first time today since the second day of training camp, but only participated in individual drills. Carroll said he did not see enough from Avril to say if he would play in Saturday’s game against Denver.

“Let’s wait until after tomorrow and see what happens, and see how he goes,” Carroll said. “That’s not very likely.”

Avril expressed disappointment to begin training camp hobbled and on the sideline.

“It wasn’t how I wanted to start out here,” Avril said about his hamstring injury. “But it’s part of football. Things happen. For me it’s just getting better every day, and progressing with the injuries, and getting ready for the season.”

Avril said the foot injury is a thing of the past, and that he pulled the hamstring during one of the early practices of training camp.

Asked if he feels like he needs a lot of preseason action to get ready for the regular season, here’s what Avril had to say.

“I would definitely like to get out there for one of these next three games,” Avril said. “It’s a little different from practicing. When you’re out there, games a are a lot quicker, a lot more physical. So you definitely want to get a feel for it before the season starts for sure.”

Expected to practice today, defensive end Bruce Irvin remained out with a groin injury. Carroll does not have a time table on his return.

“We’ll find out,” Carroll said about Irvin. “He’s got some stuff we’re looking at today. We’ll find out some more tomorrow.”

Defensive tackle Tony McDaniel also remains out with a groin injury, and might want to make his way back to the field if he wants to earn a spot on the final roster. Carroll said after watching him workout that McDaniel will not play today.

“It’s really important,” Carroll said. “We have not seen enough to know where he fits in. He has a chance to be one of the lead candidates for the 3-technique spot, but we don’t know anything about him right now. We’ve seen just limited play. So the game time is going to be really important for him.

McDaniel’s absence has opened up playing time for rookies Jesse Williams and Jordan Hill. And while Carroll has liked what he’s seen from Williams, he’s also been pleasantly surprised at how well Hill has played as an early-down defensive tackle in running situations.

However, Carroll said Hill’s main role will continue to be as an inside pass rusher on third down.

Running back Christine Michael remains out with back spasms, and will not play against Denver.

“He did a little bit of running today,” Carroll said about Michael. “They said they’ve got to see how he tolerates it tomorrow. We’re trying to get him back.”

Carroll said that he still needs to see more from Michael.

“He’s still got a lot of stuff to learn,” Carroll said. “He’s just learning. He felt better in the second half than the first half, but he needs to get a lot of turns on what’s going on. He’s still new. He still feels like a new guy. So he’s not there yet. He’s got a lot of learning to do.”

Injury UpdateA total of 13 players missed practice today. Along with Irvin, Michael and McDaniel, DE Jaye Howard (shoulder), CB Ron Parker (hamstring), OL James Carpenter (foot) and DE Ty Powell (thigh) remain out.

TE Zach Miller (foot), DE Chris Clemons (knee), CB Tharold Simon (foot), WR Percy Harvin (hip) and DE Greg Scrugs (knee) still are on the PUP list. LB Korey Toomer (hip) remains on the non-football injury list, and does not appear like he’s coming back anytime soon.

Toomer’s still on crutches.

“I don’t know how long that’s going to take,” Carroll said about Toomer. “It’s really unfortunate that that’s happened, because he was hurt last year as well. He hasn’t had a real chance to show. And we’ve seen a lot of cool things from him, so we’ll just wait it out.”

Players returning to practice today include WR Bryan Walters (hamstring), Williams (knee), Byron Maxwell (ankle), Bobby Wagner (shoulder) and Avril (hamstring)

Sweezy-Moffitt competition updateCarroll offered his most revealing remarks during training camp on the competition a between J.R. Sweezy and John Moffitt.

Asked how Moffitt’s been doing in camp, here’s what Carroll had to say.

“John’s been battling,” Carroll said. “He’s had a good chance to compete. He’s been mixing time with Sweezy with the 1s, and it’s a competition that’s ongoing.

“Sweeezy’s done really well. J.R.’s well ahead of where he was a year ago, and he’s trying to hold him off. But John’s working hard at it.”

So is Sweezy slightly ahead right now?

“He’s getting more reps, and he goes first,” Carroll said. “So he’s got an edge in that regard. But we’re giving John a great chance to see what he can do with it.”

Some tidbits

-- Today was one of the most physical practices we’ve seen during training camp. It was the final day open to the public, with training camp scheduled to come to a completion tomorrow.

Safety Kam Chancellor put running back Robert Turbin on his back as the Utah State product broke loose in the middle of the field.

And linebacker John Lotulelei blasted receiver Phil Bates out-of-bounds on a swing route out of the backfield.

“It’s Competition Wednesday, in case you don’t know,” Carroll said, smiling. “So it’s a big day for us out here. And they battled just the way they’re supposed to.”

-- After an easy drop midway though practice, receiver Jermaine Kearse made several, impressive catches through the rest of team drills.

-- Led by head coach Jon Kitna, the Lincoln High football coaching staff watched practice today.

-- Walter Thurmond had an interception for a touchdown on an out route from Tarvaris Jackson intended for Kearse.

-- Antoine Winfield has an interception off a tipped pass at the line of scrimmage.

-- WR Stephen Williams had a nice grab on a deep pass by Brady Quinn with Will Blackmon in coverage. Williams was slow to get up afterwards.

-- Rookie tight end Luke Willson made a couple nice grabs on seam routes in team drills.